What Does Batwoman Mean to the Arrowverse?

What Does Batwoman Mean to the Arrowverse?

On this exciting episode of Comic Movie-10, the Kane brothers discuss the recent news that this year’s CW cross over episode will include Batwoman. They start this week’s podcast by emphasizing that Batwoman should not be confused with the better-known Batgirl. Throughout history, Batgirl, a.k.a. Barbara Gordon, has been seen in various versions. However, Batwoman is a different character that originally appeared in 1956’s Detective Comics #233 as Kathy Kane, an heiress who is inspired by Batman, and uses her wealth to help his cause of saving Gotham City. Kane’s character continues on to become a love interest for Bruce Wayne.

This information might beg the reader to ask, why is Batwoman not a well known character? The answer is that in 1964, Julius Schwartz stepped in as the editor in regard to all things Batman related. Schwartz made the choice to completely erase who he believed were nonessential characters, including Batwoman, Batgirl (who later made a more definite return), and Bat-Mite. Although Batwoman made a slight return in 1985 in the comic Crisis on Infinite Earths, her part was actually intended to explain that she never existed in the first place. It was not until 2006 when Batwoman emerged again, this time by the name of Kate Kane. This version portrayed Batwoman as a Jewish Lesbian, which is apparently how the Arrowverse intends to show the character as well. In the Arrowverse, Kane’s part will be played by Orange is the New Black’s Ruby Rose.

While the Arrowverse has previously made reference to Gotham City, and Bruce Wayne, this will be the first time viewers truly see these worlds collide. This news begs the question of what will follow afterwards in the Arrowverse. The Kane brothers question the possibility of seeing Batman, Robin, and many other Gotham City characters in the Arrowverse in the months to come. In addition, could this mean the Arrowverse will now suddenly be plagued by the villains of Gotham as well, which might include the Joker, Freezeman, Catwoman, and countless others who could bring danger and excitement to the screen. Joe and Dan also make clear that this cross over is a completely separate entity from the currently airing show, Gotham.

What do you think of Marvel introducing an old DC character to its story line? Do you think other Gotham City residents will begin appearing in the Arrowverse? Leave your comments, questions, and opinions, and as always, tune in to the next episode of Comic Movie-10!

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How Will Gotham’s Bruce Wayne Become Batman?

On this episode of Comic Movie-10, the Kane brothers discuss the season 4 finale of Gotham, as well as their expectations and predictions for season five. Unfortunately, Gotham has only been picked up for ten episodes for the upcoming season 5. However, the good news is that the ending of seasons four ensures what is to come will be exciting and interesting.

At the end of season four, viewers see Bruce Wayne take full ownership over the city of Gotham, as he shows he feels responsible to stay and help save the city that is engulfed in chaos. Alfred, a former MI-6, who has trained Bruce in many ways, plans to escape the city and bring Bruce with him. However, Bruce says he feels he must stay and help the citizens of Gotham. In addition, Captain Gordon sends a symbol and afterward meets with Bruce on a rooftop. This is not only a major instance of foreshadowing, but also exciting for those who are true Batman fans.

The completion of the fourth season causes viewers to wonder what will happen next. In almost every version of Batman’s story, Bruce Wayne goes away for years to train in order to become the Dark Knight. Joe and Dan point out that Bruce’s training from Alfred is likely not enough to prepare him to become Batman. Does this mean season five will depict the training he endures, or will they jump ahead in time in order to show Bruce after his full transformation to Batman? The brothers point out that they could jump ahead and use flashbacks to show important portions of his training. This might make sense considering Bruce is currently in his late teenage years, where Batman is typically in his mid-twenties. In addition, the brothers question if Ra’s al Ghul will have a part in Bruce’s learning experience. Although he is assumed dead, viewers cannot be totally sure, and his involvement would be fitting.

Another interesting point to mention is that Gotham is known to be loosely based off of the Batman Zero Years comics, so Bruce’s path in Gotham could be similar to his route in the original comic books.

Lastly, the Kane brothers explain their feelings about the conclusion of the series Smallville (with Clark Kent only showing his Superman shirt under his button down, but never actually acting as Superman), and how they hope Gotham does not end this way, although there is the possibility that it could. Both Joe and Dan agree that this type of ending would not give justice to the anticipation that has built over many seasons, just as the ending of Smallville was in many ways disappointing.

How did you feel about the finale of Smallville? What about Gotham’s season four finale? What are your predictions for season five? Let the brothers know by leaving your comments, questions, and opinions, and as always, tune in to the next episode of Comic Movie-10.

Gotham TV Show Characters

How Do The Gotham TV Characters Compare To The Comics?

This episode of Comic Movie-10 is all about the hit show, Gotham. More specifically however, the Kane brothers will be exploring the differences and similarities between the characters in the show, and their characters’ origins in the comics.

The brothers discuss how both Ben McKenzie as Commissioner Gordon and Sean Pertwee as Alfred, take on an entirely new role when compared to their comic book counterparts. Both characters have been traditionally thought of as goody two shoes, however their characters in Gotham are much more dark and mysterious. Joe and Dan discuss their opinions on this and whether this change works or not.

Additionally, they explore the character Bruce Wayne, and how his attitude as a “billionaire brat” is unlike any version of Bruce Wayne the world has ever known. In fact, much of Bruce Wayne’s early life is a mystery to Batman fans, other than the comics showing that he watched his parents being murdered. Gotham explores what happened to Bruce during his years of adolescence and how he was not necessarily always calm, cool, and collected. David Mazouz plays Bruce Wayne in the series and is doing an extraordinary job, but managing to portray an irritating version of the beloved Bruce Wayne at the same time.

Finally, the Kane brothers examine the villains on the show, with the three most prominent being, Edward Nygma, or Riddler, played by Cory Michael Smith, The Penguin, played by Robin Lord Taylor, and Selina Kyle, or Catwoman, played by Camren Bicondova. This episode explains how the villains of the show are much more similar to their comic book counterparts than the good guys, and whether this is a good or bad factor.

After watching, leave your comments, opinions, and questions. Do you think Gotham has done a good job portraying these famous characters? What changes do you notice? Do you like the differences, or do you believe the writers should have stayed true to the way the comics portrayed them? Let Joe and Dan know what you think, and make sure to tune in to the next episode of Comic Movie-10.

Check out our interview with actor Christian Frazier who appeared in the TV show Gotham